A single verse of Isaiah is carried through the internet and into street conversations as a supposed prophecy of Islam's prophet: the book delivered “to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.” This teaching takes the verse back to its chapter — and lets the chapter answer.
The Board — the 29 Objections, Answered
Twenty-nine objections, none of them softened and none of them skipped — each one stated the way it is brought on the street and in the debate hall, what is at stake in it, the answer on video, and the Scripture anchor the answer stands on. Avery Austin (GodLogic) answers most of this board himself; where his answer could not be verified, a fellow labourer — Sam Shamoun, Christian Prince, Tim Barnett (Mr. B of Red Pen Logic) — answers in his own name, and every panel says who is speaking. Tap an objection. Watch the answer.
1. The Qur'an confirms the Torah and the Gospel — so where the Bible disagrees with the Qur'an, the Bible is wrong. Islam corrects it.
If the Qur'an confirms a corrupted book, its confirmation is worthless; if the Bible stands, Islam's corrections fail — the dilemma has no third door, and it is the hinge of the whole debate.
Watch the answer — at its maker's door
Avery springs the dilemma out of Surah 4:157 itself: the verse answers what PEOPLE SAY — “for their saying, we killed the Messiah” — not what the Scripture says, so it cannot prove the Bible was ever corrected or corrupted.
The clip is its maker's work, so it stands at his own door, credited here and never copied.
The Scripture Anchor
“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.”
Galatians 1:8
2. Jesus was not crucified. It only appeared so — Allah raised him to Himself (Surah 4:157).
Take away the cross and you take away the gospel itself: no death, no burial, no resurrection — against four Gospels, the apostles, and the earliest enemies of the faith who never denied the tomb was empty.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): GodLogic BRUTALLY Dismantles Muslim Scholar's Argument About Jesus — Christian Lens · Watch on YouTube ›
Avery gets the scholar to concede that Mark is writing the Injil — then reads Mark 10:32–34, where the Injil itself foretells the death, crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus. The scholar concedes the case.
The Scripture Anchor
“For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;”
1 Corinthians 15:3
3. The Bible has been corrupted. The true Injil that Jesus preached is lost — what you hold is a changed book.
If God could not or would not keep His word, no scripture — the Qur'an included — can be trusted on its own claim; the charge devours the very book brought to make it.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): GodLogic DISMANTLES John Fontain’s Claim That the Bible Was Corrupted in HEATED Debate! — eve lepine · Watch on YouTube ›
From the Qur'an and Hadith: Jews and Christians are commanded to stand on the Torah and the Gospel described as IN THEIR HANDS in Muhammad's own time — a command that makes no sense if those books were already corrupted or lost.
The Scripture Anchor
“The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.”
Isaiah 40:8
4. You worship three gods — and Mary besides. The Trinity is shirk, the one unforgivable sin.
The whole gospel turns on who Jesus is: if the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost are one God, Islam's central charge collapses and its prophet's book is wrong about Christianity itself.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): She Was a Muslim… Until This One Question About the Trinity Changed Everything, GodLogic Apologetics — Kami Today · Watch on YouTube ›
Three distinct Persons sharing the ONE divine nature — the Trinity is not three gods, and it does not contradict monotheism. One question about it changed a Muslim woman's whole position.
The Scripture Anchor
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
1 John 5:7
5. Show me one place — one — where Jesus said in his own words, 'I am God, worship me.' You can't.
The demand is for a wording, not the truth: Jesus claimed the divine name, received worship, and forgave sins — and the men who heard Him reached for stones because they understood the claim.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): 😁 He used Bible verses to destroy his own argument | (GodLogic vs Lamin) | Speakers Corner — SOCO Films · Watch on YouTube ›
At Speakers Corner the exact-words challenge is set — and flipped: “I'll become a Muslim if he shows me where Jesus says: I am NOT God, do NOT worship me.” The demand for one wording is answered by the words Jesus actually spoke.
The Scripture Anchor
“Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.”
John 8:58
6. Paul invented Christianity. He never even met Jesus, and he corrupted the pure message Jesus preached.
Cut Paul out and the objector must still face the Gospels, Peter, James, and John — all preaching the same Christ crucified and risen; Paul is the excuse, not the obstacle.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): Muslim CHALLENGES GodLogic To PROVE Paul Is Better Than Muhammad... And GETS SCHOOLED — Towards Jesus · Watch on YouTube ›
Avery defends Paul head-on against the Muslim attack — Paul, whose teaching the Qur'an's own sources commend — while the trash-talk of Paul exposes the double standard held toward Muhammad. (Segment-level answer; see the build report.)
The Scripture Anchor
“For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.”
Galatians 1:12
7. Muhammad is prophesied in your own Bible — the Paraclete, the prophet like Moses (Deuteronomy 18:18), 'Muhammadim' in Song of Solomon 5:16.
Islam needs the Bible true here and corrupt everywhere else; every one of these texts, read in its own chapter, names somebody else — and the Comforter is identified by Jesus Himself.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): Muslim Woman Tries To Defend Muhammad... It Gets Worse — Towards Christ · Watch on YouTube ›
The Qur'an claims Muhammad was mentioned in the Torah and the Gospel; Avery challenges her to show where the previous Scriptures actually name or foretell him. The text is never produced.
One claimed prophecy — Isaiah 29:12, “I am not learned” — is answered at full length in the study further down this page.
The Scripture Anchor
“But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”
John 14:26
8. The Qur'an has been perfectly preserved, letter for letter, for 1,400 years. Your Bible has thousands of variants. Why trust the changed book?
Preservation is a factual contest the Bible wins openly: thousands of manuscripts, from within living memory of the events, with every variant on the table for inspection — while the Qur'an's early copies were gathered and burned by its own caliph.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): Muslim Realize the Quran Isn’t Word-for-Word from Allah... 3 Qurans. 1 Allah. Which One Is Real? — Eden Reactions · Watch on YouTube ›
“Owner,” “Master,” or “King” of the Day of Judgment? Avery reads the same verse from the Hafs and Warsh Qur'ans side by side — if the book is word-for-word from Allah, He cannot have said all three.
The Scripture Anchor
“Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.”
Psalm 12:7
9. God cannot have a son — 'He begetteth not, nor is He begotten' (Surah 112:3). Your 'Son of God' means God took a wife and fathered a child.
The objection attacks a doctrine Christianity has never held: the Son is eternal, begotten not made — and the Qur'an's misunderstanding of the title is itself evidence against its claimed source.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): Muslim Says God Can’t Have a Son… His Own Quran Destroys Him! — Eden Reactions · Watch on YouTube ›
The caller insists God CANNOT have a son. Avery turns to the Qur'an itself (39:4): it says Allah does not take a son — but that if He willed, He could choose one. The “cannot” is the caller's word, not his book's.
The Scripture Anchor
“I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.”
Psalm 2:7
10. God does not become a man. That is beneath His majesty — a man of flesh and blood cannot be God.
The claim is not that God cannot, but that He would not — yet the whole Bible runs the other way: God walked in the garden, ate with Abraham, and promised to dwell among men in flesh.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): God Logic DISMANTLES Muslim Debater’s Claim That God Cannot Become Human! — Christian Mane · Watch on YouTube ›
Against Wed Naim, Avery argues from the Hebrew prophets themselves: Zechariah 12:10 — Yahweh speaking, “they shall look upon me whom they have pierced” — and Isaiah 9:6, the child born who is called Mighty God. A pierced God only makes sense if God enters the flesh.
The Scripture Anchor
“And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
John 1:14
11. No soul can bear another's burden (Surah 6:164). A baby is born pure — your 'original sin' is an unjust doctrine.
Men are not condemned for Adam's biography but born into his fallen nature and death — and the same chapter that states the problem states the cure in the same terms: one Man for all.
Video answer by Christian Prince: Is Allah the Moon God? Christian Prince Debates Quran-Only Muslim — Christian Prince · Watch on YouTube ›
Christian Prince answers this one inside his debate with a Qur'an-only Muslim — the debate's own description names the segment: “Original sin Islam: Adam vs Moses.” Muhammad himself ruled for Adam in that dispute (Sahih Muslim 2652): Adam's fall, and all it brought on his children, stood by Allah's own decree. On Islam's own terms, Adam's offspring did bear what came from Adam's sin.
The Scripture Anchor
“Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
Romans 5:12
12. An innocent man cannot die for the guilty — that is not mercy, it is injustice. Allah forgives whom He wills; He needs no cross.
Forgiveness that costs nothing is not mercy but indifference; at the cross God does not waive the debt — He pays it Himself, and remains just while He justifies.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): Muslim Woman Admits: Our Sins Go to Jews & Christians! | God Logic Responds! — Theological Apologia · Watch on YouTube ›
A Muslim woman calls Jesus dying for others unjust; Avery answers from Sahih Muslim 2767 — on Judgment Day, in Islam's own hadith, the sins of Muslims are laid on Jews and Christians. Islam itself affirms the transfer it condemns in the cross.
The Scripture Anchor
“All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.”
Isaiah 53:6
13. Jesus was a prophet of Islam — a Muslim messenger sent to Israel, a man and nothing more.
The Qur'an itself calls Jesus the Word of Allah and a spirit from Him, born of a virgin, worker of miracles it gives no other prophet — honours that will not fit inside the word 'only'.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): Ali Dawah vs GodLogic FULL DISCUSSION! | Is Jesus A Muslim? — GodLogic Apologetics · Watch on YouTube ›
The full discussion with Ali Dawah: Jesus preached God as His own Father and claimed what no mere messenger claims — He cannot be folded into Islam as one of its prophets.
The Scripture Anchor
“And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.”
John 10:28
14. Jesus was voted God at Nicaea in 325, under Constantine. Before that, Christians knew he was only a man.
Nicaea wrote nothing new — it defended, against a new heresy, what the earliest churches, martyrs, and manuscripts had confessed from the beginning, three centuries of witnesses deep.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): GodLogic DISMANTLES John Fontain’s Claim That the Bible Was Corrupted in HEATED Debate! — eve lepine · Watch on YouTube ›
Inside this full debate, Avery works through the Council of Nicaea and the Nicene Creed themselves: the creed confessed and defended what the church already believed about Christ — it invented nothing.
The Scripture Anchor
“But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.”
Hebrews 1:8
15. Your Gospels contradict each other — the tomb, the genealogies, who carried the cross. A book from God would not disagree with itself.
Differences of witness are the marks of independent testimony, and every alleged contradiction brought to the light has dissolved into selection, perspective, or careless reading.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): GodLogic BRUTALLY Dismantles Muslim Scholar's Argument About Jesus — Christian Lens · Watch on YouTube ›
Several Gospel witnesses to the same events are how history is verified in every other field — Avery presses the point until the accounts' agreement, not their ruin, becomes the argument.
The Scripture Anchor
“God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?”
Numbers 23:19
16. Jesus prayed, ate, slept, wept, was tempted, and said he did not know the hour. A god does none of that — he was a man.
The objection only proves the Incarnation it tries to deny: the Son truly took our nature — hunger, weariness, and tears included — without ceasing to be God; that humbling is the doctrine, not a defect in it.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): HEATED! GodLogic DEEP-FRIES Dawah's "BEST" Debater For 30 MINUTES STRAIGHT At Speakers Corner — GodLogic Apologetics · Watch on YouTube ›
On “the Son knoweth not the hour” (Mark 13:32): “know” there is the authority to DECLARE the hour, not ignorance of it — and the same chapter sets the Son over the angels and over judgment, which no mere man is.
The Scripture Anchor
“But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:”
Philippians 2:7
17. 'My Father is greater than I' — and on the cross he cried, 'My God, why hast thou forsaken me?' Jesus is beneath the Father, not equal with Him.
The same Jesus said 'I and my Father are one' and took the divine name on His own lips; the greater-than text speaks of His mission and humiliation, the forsaken cry quotes the Psalm that ends in triumph.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): DEBATE: Is Jesus The Most High According To The New Testament? Godlogic VS The Orthodox Muslim — The Orthodox Muslim · Watch on YouTube ›
From Philippians 2 and John 17:5: in the flesh, the Son took a servant's ROLE under the Father without ceasing to be what He IS — “you're arguing nature; we're talking about role.”
The Scripture Anchor
“I and my Father are one.”
John 10:30
18. The Qur'an described embryology, the expanding universe, and the separation of the heavens and the earth 1,400 years before science — miracles of knowledge that prove it is from God.
The verses read 'scientific' only after science supplies the meaning — the words themselves are vague enough to fit any cosmology, while the Bible's plain statements of fact stood checkable for three thousand years.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): Yes, The Internet is Killing Islam (GodLogic) — RedMantis · Watch on YouTube ›
In this interview Avery gives the Qur'an's “scientific miracles” claim a dedicated segment (from 35:40) — and its test: a verse vague enough to be fitted to any later discovery is not knowledge, miraculous or otherwise.
The Scripture Anchor
“He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.”
Job 26:7
19. Produce one chapter like the Qur'an (Surah 2:23). In 1,400 years no one has — its inimitability is the proof.
A challenge with no named judge and no agreed measure proves nothing but confidence; God's test of a prophet is not style but fulfilled prophecy — declared beforehand and done in the open.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): Muslima Leaves Islam & Comes To Christ LIVE | FULL DISCUSSION — GodLogic Apologetics · Watch on YouTube ›
The challenge of Surah 2:23 is thrown down live — “produce one ayah like it” — and Avery answers from Sahih al-Bukhari 4483: Umar's own words preceded revelation and then appeared as it (66:5). If a man produced Qur'an-like verse, the challenge is met — or Umar was a prophet too.
The Scripture Anchor
“Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:”
Isaiah 46:10
20. The Gospel of Barnabas tells the true story of Jesus — the church suppressed it and the other real gospels, and kept its corrupted four.
The Barnabas text is a medieval forgery that makes elementary errors about the world of the first century — and the four Gospels were received everywhere, centuries before it, by witnesses who died for them.
Video answer by Sam Shamoun: Muslim gets ANIMATED after Sam Shamoun shows Quran says Paul is an APOSTLE — Shamounian Explains · Watch on YouTube ›
Sam Shamoun answers this one in live debate: a Muslim reaches for “Barnabas”, and Sam shows he is confusing the genuine Epistle of Barnabas with the late forgery called the Gospel of Barnabas — then has him read the Epistle itself (the Barnabas exchange runs from 9:08), where Barnabas teaches that the Lord delivered up His flesh “that we might be sanctified through the remission of sins” by His blood. The true Barnabas witness preaches the very cross the forgery denies.
The Scripture Anchor
“For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.”
2 Corinthians 11:4
21. Jesus said 'this generation shall not pass' till all be fulfilled, and promised to return — it never happened. His prophecies failed.
Read in its chapter, the prophecy of Jerusalem's fall was fulfilled within that very generation, in AD 70, to the letter — and the Lord who gave it also said no man knows the day of His return.
Video answer by Sam Shamoun: What did JESUS mean by "THIS GENERATION WILL NOT PASS?" | Sam Shamoun — Faith With Reason · Watch on YouTube ›
Sam Shamoun answers this one head-on in a full session on Matthew 24:34 (the video's description carries the timestamps): “this generation” saw the judgment Jesus was describing in that discourse — the fall of Jerusalem and the Temple in AD 70 — while His final coming still waits on the day the Father has set, exactly as He said. The objection reads the verse as a failed end-of-the-world date; read in context, nothing He foretold failed.
The Scripture Anchor
“The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.”
2 Peter 3:9
22. Muhammad is the Seal of the Prophets. Islam is God's final, completed religion — it supersedes Christianity as Christianity superseded Judaism.
The faith was delivered once, and Christ is God's last word in these last days; a 'final' prophet who contradicts the Son is not a completion of the message but a different gospel.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): His Entire Argument Depends On A Bad Translation — GodLogicMultiVerse · Watch on YouTube ›
The supersession claim hangs on one Arabic word: MUHAYMIN in Surah 5:48 means a guardian and witness standing over the earlier books — not their canceller. A guardian does not get to declare his charge corrupt.
The Scripture Anchor
“Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.”
Jude 3
23. We worship the same God — the God of Abraham. Islam kept His oneness pure; Christians corrupted it into a trinity.
The God of Abraham is known by His own words about Himself; a 'god' who denies the Son, the cross, and the Father's name is not the same God under another name but another god.
Watch the answer — at its maker's door
At the table Avery reads 1 John 5:20 — Jesus Christ “is the true God” — and his hearer agrees the Bible says it. If Jesus is THE true God, then every other god is false by default.
The clip is its maker's work, so it stands at his own door, credited here and never copied.
The Scripture Anchor
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
1 John 5:20
24. Your own Bible commands slaughter and permits slavery, and the church spread itself by the sword — the Crusades. Christianity is in no position to judge Islam.
Christ's kingdom is expressly not advanced by the sword, and the men who took it up in His name acted against His orders; the Bible's own words condemn the crimes laid at its door.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): Christian Godlogic EXPOSES Muslim Opponent’s Double Standard on Bible and Quran Translations! — Christian Mane · Watch on YouTube ›
Avery walks Surah 9 from verse 1: verse 29 commands fighting the Jews and Christians until they pay the jizya — for their DISBELIEF, not their aggression. The sword charge comes home to the book that makes it.
The Scripture Anchor
“Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.”
Matthew 26:52
25. Your God died on a cross — and 'rested' on the seventh day, and 'repented' in Genesis. A god who can die, tire, and change his mind is no god at all.
The everlasting God neither faints nor is weary: the rest of Genesis is the rest of finished work, and what died on the cross was the flesh the Word had taken — the impassible God suffering, in the person of the Son, what He had made His own.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): God Logic DISMANTLES Muslim Debater’s Claim That God Cannot Become Human! — Christian Mane · Watch on YouTube ›
Avery answers from the prophets: the pierced Yahweh of Zechariah 12:10 and the Mighty God child of Isaiah 9:6. What suffered and died was the flesh the Word had taken — that is the Incarnation, not a weakness in God.
The Scripture Anchor
“Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.”
Isaiah 40:28
26. 'God cannot die. But Jesus died — so either God can die, or Jesus is not God.' The Trinity, 'debunked' in thirty seconds.
Stated at its strongest, the argument is quick and clean: God cannot die; Jesus died; therefore Jesus is not God — or God can die after all. If it stood, the cross itself would disprove the deity of Christ, and the Trinity with it. It is the neatest thirty seconds in the dawah repertoire — and it stands only while two words are traded in two senses at once.
Video answer by Tim Barnett (Mr. B — Red Pen Logic): Did this Muslim DEBUNK the Trinity in 30 Seconds? — Tim Barnett · Watch on YouTube ›
Mr. B takes out the red pen and names the trick: EQUIVOCATION — one word traded in two senses inside a single argument. 'Die' means to cease to exist, and it means to die bodily, the soul parted from the body. In the first sense God cannot die — and no Christian has ever said the divine nature ceased to exist. In the second, God as spirit has no body to die in — but God the Son took one. 'God' is traded the same way: the divine nature in itself, and that same God in the flesh He made His own. And the 'either/or' only looks forced because it assumes the Incarnation away before the debate begins — it refutes a Christ no Christian preaches.
The doctrine the argument never reaches is the HYPOSTATIC UNION: 'the Word was made flesh' (John 1:14) — one divine Person in two complete natures, who, 'being in the form of God,' 'became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross' (Philippians 2:6, 8). What either nature undergoes is therefore spoken of the one Person — 'God was manifest in the flesh' (1 Timothy 3:16) — and that answers the follow-up, 'where is your divine sacrifice?': the worth of the sacrifice is in WHO died. The flesh that died was God the Son's own, not a third party's; His human soul parted from His human body, His Godhead united to both, His existence never for one moment ended. So with the words defined, both sentences stand together: God cannot die — and God the Son died for us. ON THE STREET, in your own thirty seconds: 'Define die. Cease to exist? Agreed — God cannot, and never did. Bodily death? The Son took a body for that very purpose. Your argument needs the two confused; the gospel keeps them distinct.'
The Scripture Anchor
“Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.”
Acts 20:28
27. 'The Trinity is three gods — and a God who has a Son is no God at all.' The Trinity, defended head-on.
What turns on this one is everything. The Trinity is not one doctrine among many — it is who the Bible says God is: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. If Islam's charge stood, the God of Abraham would not be the God Christians worship, the Son would be a creature, and the cross the death of a mere man. So the doctrine itself carries a head-on defence on this board — seated beside entry 26's Trinity teaching, where it belongs.
Watch the answer — at its maker's door
Sam Shamoun — already heard on this board at entries 20 and 21 — here defends the Trinity itself against Islam's charge, in a video on his own Facebook page (Shamoun001), seated beside entry 26 by the owner's order. One honesty note: the video's own title could not be verified through the connector, so the words on the door below are this board's description of the video, not its title.
The clip is its maker's work, so it stands at his own door, credited here and never copied.
Why Matthew 28:19 stands guard over this panel: the Lord does not say 'in the names' — it is one name, borne by three: 'in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost'. One God, three Persons, neither divided nor confused. And heaven's own record says the same: 'there are three that bear record in heaven' — 'and these three are one' (1 John 5:7). That is the doctrine Islam calls shirk; it is the doctrine the church is baptized into.
The Scripture Anchor
“Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:”
Matthew 28:19
28. 'Your Bible was corrupted — that's why it disagrees with the Qur'an.' The Islamic Dilemma, read out of the Qur'an's own pages.
What turns on this one is the Qur'an's own testimony, taken at its word. If the Torah and the Gospel stand true, the Qur'an is judged false wherever it contradicts them. If they were already corrupted when the Qur'an came, then the Qur'an is false for sending its prophet to them for certainty, for owning the Torah as Allah's judgment, and for commanding judgment by the Gospel. True, the Qur'an falls; corrupted, it falls again — the dilemma has no third door. Entry 1 sprang it from the crucifixion saying; this one reads it out of the Qur'an's own verses.
Watch the answer — at its maker's door
Avery Austin (GodLogic) — the voice of most of this board, already standing at his own door at entries 1 and 23 — here walks the Islamic Dilemma out of the Qur'an's own pages: Surah 10:94 sends a doubting Muhammad to those who have been reading the Scripture before him; 5:43 owns the Torah as the place of Allah's judgment; 5:47 commands the people of the Gospel to judge by what Allah revealed in it. His citations are his, made in his video. Posted to his own Facebook page on August 18, 2026, and seated here by the owner's order. The title on the door below is the video's own caption, verified through the connector.
The clip is its maker's work, so it stands at his own door, credited here and never copied.
Why John 10:35 stands guard over this panel: pressed by men ready to stone him, the Lord rests his case on one clause — 'the scripture cannot be broken'. Not will not be — cannot be. A book that men could corrupt out from under God's own purposes would be a broken book, and the Scripture, by the Lord's own word, is not breakable. So when the Qur'an sends its own doubter back to the Torah and the Gospel for certainty, it sends him to the very Book that cannot be broken — and by the time he arrives, 'thy word is truth' (John 17:17) is still standing.
The Scripture Anchor
“If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;”
John 10:35
29. 'Your Bible was corrupted — the Qur'an had to come and correct it.' Surah 10:94, the one verse that destroys the charge out of the Qur'an's own mouth.
What turns on this one is a single verse read plainly. In Surah 10:94 — on Avery's argument in this debate — the Qur'an speaks to its own prophet in his doubt: if you are in doubt about what has been sent down to you, ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. A corrupted book cannot settle a prophet's doubt; a court of appeal that men had already falsified would settle nothing, and sending him to it would settle less. Nor does the verse stand alone in his case: behind it runs the chain of custody, the Gospel confirming the Torah (5:46) and its people commanded to judge by it (5:47). If the earlier Scripture stood sound enough in Muhammad's own day for the Qur'an to send him to it, the corruption has to be moved later than the Qur'an itself — and later is too late for the charge to do the work it is brought to do. Entry 3 holds this charge in its general form; entry 28 walks the wider dilemma on Avery's own reel; this seat is the one verse, pressed in open debate.
Video answer by Avery Austin (GodLogic): 10:94 Destroyed Islam's Biggest Lie - Bible Corruption Debunked | Godlogic Debates — Creeds Collision · Watch on YouTube ›
Avery Austin (GodLogic) — the voice of most of this board — in open debate, taking the corruption charge head-on from the one verse: Surah 10:94, which on his reading directs a doubting Muhammad to ask those who had been reading the Scripture before him — a direction that settles nothing unless that Scripture stood uncorrupted in their hands. Behind the one verse he runs the chain of custody: the Gospel sent down confirming the Torah before it (5:46), and the people of the Gospel commanded to judge by what Allah revealed in it (5:47). His citations, and his reading of them, are his, made in his debate. The clip stands on YouTube on the Creeds Collision channel, which presents it as a clip of Avery's debate and itself directs viewers to @GodLogicApologetics for the full debate — the answer is Avery's; the clip seat is theirs, and both are credited here. Seated by the owner's order. The title above is the video's own, as it stands on YouTube (verified from the video's listing, October 31, 2026).
Why 1 Peter 1:25 stands guard over this panel: Peter is quoting Isaiah — 'the word of our God shall stand for ever' — and he lands that promise on one named thing: 'the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.' Not a lost original hidden behind the book we hold, but the preached Gospel itself, the very text the corruption charge is aimed at. Kingdoms have withered over it like the grass of Isaiah's saying; the corruption charge is only the latest flower to fade against it — for 'the word of the Lord endureth for ever', and it is that enduring word, not a replacement, that the Qur'an's own doubter was sent back to read.
The Scripture Anchor
“But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.”
1 Peter 1:25
The Study — Isaiah 29:12, the Claim Answered in Full
The exhibit — the claim itself, at its own door
The clip this teaching answers is another man's work, so it is never copied here — it stands at its maker's own door, and this teaching links to it as the exhibit under answer. Watch the claim made, then walk the chapter below and weigh it.
A companion witness — the Quran's own titles for Jesus
In this short clip from the Godlogic apologetics ministry, a Christian apologist presses a question Muslims are rarely asked: the Quran itself calls Jesus the Word of Allah, a spirit from Him, and the only one born of a virgin — honours it gives to no other prophet. If Jesus were “just a messenger,” why does Islam's own book single Him out above every messenger it names? Scripture's answer takes that uniqueness at full strength: the Word was with God, and the Word was God — and that same Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us. The clip is its maker's work, so it stands at his own door, credited here and never copied.
John 1:1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
A companion witness — the perfection God requires, and the Christ who supplies it
In this second clip from the same ministry, Avery of Godlogic presses his Muslim opponent Waleed with the Lord's own standard: “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.” The standard is God's, and it does not bend — God is holy, and He cannot accept less without ceasing to be Himself. No man meets that standard, and no mere prophet or messenger can make another man meet it. That is where the deity of Christ carries the whole weight of the gospel: the perfection God requires, God Himself supplies — for in Christ “dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily,” and by His one offering He “hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.” A messenger can only announce the standard; God manifest in the flesh fulfils it. The clip is its maker's work, so it stands at his own door, credited here and never copied.
Matthew 5:48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Colossians 2:9For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Hebrews 10:14For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
A companion witness — the sword verse, answered out of Islam's own book
In this clip, posted by the page Jesse Speaks, a woman debating a Muslim man in the open air is set the terms by the man himself: show me one verse where Allah commands violence. She does not reach for commentary, or for the history books. She opens his own book — Surah 8, verse 12, where the speaker says, “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve,” and gives the command to strike necks and fingertips — and she sends him to Surahs 5 and 8 to read the whole of it for himself. Then she presses the point his own challenge cannot escape: if you follow the Qur'an to the letter, exactly as you demand the Bible be followed — how many have you killed? Set that beside the Lord she serves. When Peter drew a sword in Christ's own defence, Christ rebuked the sword itself: “Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.” The church's Captain disarms His own; the Qur'an's terror verse arms its own. That is the difference between the two faiths, stated in open debate out of the two books themselves. The woman who presses it is not named in the clip, and she is not named here; the clip is its maker's work, so it stands at the maker's own door, credited here and never copied.
Matthew 26:52Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.
The Claim, Fairly Stated
What is claimed
In the clip, the speaker reads Isaiah 29:12 and argues that 'him that is not learned' is Muhammad: when the first revelation came to him, he is said to have answered that he could not read — in effect, 'I am not learned.' On that basis, Isaiah is presented as prophesying, some thirteen centuries before he lived, the coming of Islam's prophet. The claim is made from our own Bible, so it deserves a careful answer; and it is answered best the same way it is made — by opening the chapter.
Isaiah 29:12And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
Isaiah 29 in Its Own Context
The chapter names its city: Ariel is Jerusalem
Isaiah 29 opens with a woe, and it names the place the woe falls on: 'Woe to Ariel, to Ariel, the city where David dwelt!' Ariel is Jerusalem. The siege, the sorrow, the blindness, and the deliverance of the chapter all belong to that city and to the people in it. Nothing in the chapter travels to another land or another age.
Isaiah 29:1Woe to Ariel, to Ariel, the city where David dwelt! add ye year to year; let them kill sacrifices.
The 'book' is Isaiah's own vision — sealed as a judgment
Verses 9 and 10 describe a stupor that God Himself pours out on the city: 'the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes.' Then verse 11 tells us plainly what the book of verse 12 is: 'the vision of all' — Isaiah's own prophecy — 'is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed.' The sealing is the sentence: the word of God shut to hearers who would not hear.
Isaiah 29:9Stay yourselves, and wonder; cry ye out, and cry: they are drunken, but not with wine; they stagger, but not with strong drink.
Isaiah 29:10For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.
Isaiah 29:11And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
Two men, two excuses — and neither is an honour
The sealed vision is carried first to the learned man: 'Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed.' Then it is carried to the unlearned man, and he answers, 'I am not learned.' The two replies are a matched pair — the scholar's excuse and the untaught man's excuse — and both are quoted as proof of the judgment: God's word has become unreadable to a blinded people. The unlearned man's line is not a crown laid on a coming prophet. It is a confession spoken under condemnation.
Isaiah 29:11And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
Isaiah 29:12And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
God gives His own answer inside the chapter
Verse 13 states the charge: 'this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me.' Verse 14 states God's response: 'I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people.' Among this people — Jerusalem, the house of Jacob — and the chapter closes with Jacob's children sanctifying the Holy One of Jacob in the midst of the city (v.22). From the first verse to the last, the chapter stays home.
Isaiah 29:13Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
Isaiah 29:14Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.
Isaiah 29:22Therefore thus saith the LORD, who redeemed Abraham, concerning the house of Jacob, Jacob shall not now be ashamed, neither shall his face now wax pale.
Why It Cannot Mean Muhammad
The passage names everything about itself
Its subject: Ariel, Jerusalem (v.1). Its book: 'the vision of all,' Isaiah's own prophecy (v.11). Its people: 'this people,' the house of Jacob (vv.13, 22). Its setting: the siege and the blindness Isaiah was sent to declare. A prophecy that names its own city, its own book, and its own people leaves nothing unassigned to carry across thirteen centuries to Arabia.
Isaiah 29:1Woe to Ariel, to Ariel, the city where David dwelt! add ye year to year; let them kill sacrifices.
Isaiah 29:11And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
Isaiah 29:13Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
An excuse under judgment is not a prophecy of honour
The words 'I am not learned' stand in the text because the vision is sealed to blind hearers (vv.10–12). Try the same method on the learned man's answer and it would 'prophesy' a different man altogether: 'I cannot; for it is sealed.' A method that can make one paragraph foretell two different people, depending on which excuse you lift out of it, is not interpretation — it is borrowing. The verse must be allowed to say what it says, where it stands.
Isaiah 29:10For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.
Isaiah 29:11And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed:
Isaiah 29:12And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned.
The claim asks the chapter to reverse itself
In Isaiah 29, being unable to read the sealed book is the misery of the judged. In the claim, that same inability is presented as the glory of the prophesied. The chapter cannot mean both. Where God pours out the spirit of deep sleep, He is not sketching the portrait of a coming prophet — He is shutting the eyes of a city that had already shut its heart (v.13).
Isaiah 29:10For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.
Isaiah 29:13Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:
How to Answer It on the Street
Read the chapter aloud, from verse 1
Do not wrestle over one verse. Open the Bible and read Isaiah 29 aloud from the first verse, slowly. By the time you reach verse 12, the hearer has already met Ariel, the deep sleep, and the sealed vision — and verse 12 reads itself.
Isaiah 29:1Woe to Ariel, to Ariel, the city where David dwelt! add ye year to year; let them kill sacrifices.
Ask: who is Ariel?
One question does most of the work: 'Who is Ariel?' The chapter answers it in its first line — 'the city where David dwelt.' If the chapter is about Jerusalem, the claim built upon it has nowhere to stand; and most hearers can see that for themselves once the question is asked.
Ask what an excuse under judgment sounds like
Then ask the second question: 'Does a man's excuse, quoted while God is judging his city for lip-service, sound like a prophecy of honour?' Let the Scripture carry the weight. You are not asking the hearer to take your word against the speaker's — you are asking him to read the chapter.
Firm on the text, gentle with the man
Answer the claim; never mock the person. Many who repeat this claim have simply never read Isaiah 29 whole. Read it with them, thank them for the conversation, and leave them the chapter itself to think on. The word of God, read in its place, is its own best defense.